FORM 4
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UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549

STATEMENT OF CHANGES IN BENEFICIAL OWNERSHIP OF SECURITIES

Filed pursuant to Section 16(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 or Section 30(h) of the Investment Company Act of 1940
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1. Name and Address of Reporting Person *
USHER THOMAS J
   2. Issuer Name and Ticker or Trading Symbol
PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC [PNC] 		5. Relationship of Reporting Person(s) to Issuer
(Check all applicable)
__X__ Director _____ 10% Owner
_____ Officer (give title below) _____ Other (specify below)
(Last)
(First)
(Middle)
CHAIRMAN, UNITED STATES STEEL CORPORATION		 3. Date of Earliest Transaction (Month/Day/Year)
09/30/2004
(Street)

PITTSBURGH, PA 15219-4776		 4. If Amendment, Date Original Filed(Month/Day/Year)
 6. Individual or Joint/Group Filing(Check Applicable Line)
_X_ Form filed by One Reporting Person
___ Form filed by More than One Reporting Person
(City)
(State)
(Zip)
Table I - Non-Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned
1.Title of Security
(Instr. 3)		 2. Transaction Date (Month/Day/Year) 2A. Deemed Execution Date, if any (Month/Day/Year) 3. Transaction Code
(Instr. 8)		 4. Securities Acquired (A) or Disposed of (D)
(Instr. 3, 4 and 5)		 5. Amount of Securities Beneficially Owned Following Reported Transaction(s)
(Instr. 3 and 4)		 6. Ownership Form: Direct (D) or Indirect (I)
(Instr. 4)		 7. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership
(Instr. 4)
Code V Amount (A) or (D) Price

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Table II - Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned
(e.g., puts, calls, warrants, options, convertible securities)
1. Title of Derivative Security
(Instr. 3)		 2. Conversion or Exercise Price of Derivative Security 3. Transaction Date (Month/Day/Year) 3A. Deemed Execution Date, if any (Month/Day/Year) 4. Transaction Code
(Instr. 8)		 5. Number of Derivative Securities Acquired (A) or Disposed of (D)
(Instr. 3, 4, and 5)		 6. Date Exercisable and Expiration Date
(Month/Day/Year)		 7. Title and Amount of Underlying Securities
(Instr. 3 and 4)		 8. Price of Derivative Security
(Instr. 5)		 9. Number of Derivative Securities Beneficially Owned Following Reported Transaction(s)
(Instr. 4)		 10. Ownership Form of Derivative Security: Direct (D) or Indirect (I)
(Instr. 4)		 11. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership
(Instr. 4)
Code V (A) (D) Date Exercisable Expiration Date Title Amount or Number of Shares
Phantom Stock Unit (1) 07/24/2004   J(2) V 83     (3)   (3) $5 Par Common Stock 83 $ 49.695 8,247 I Deferred Compensation Plan
Phantom Stock Unit (1) 09/30/2004   A(4)   425     (3)   (3) $5 Par Common Stock 425 $ 0 8,672 I Deferred Compensation Plan
Phantom Stock Unit (1) 07/24/2004   J(5) V 66     (3)   (3) $5 Par Common Stock 66 $ 49.695 6,635 I Deferred Stock Unit Plan

Reporting Owners

Reporting Owner Name / Address Relationships
 Director  10% Owner  Officer  Other
USHER THOMAS J
CHAIRMAN
UNITED STATES STEEL CORPORATION
PITTSBURGH, PA 15219-4776		   X      

Signatures

 Mark C. Joseph, Attorney-in-Fact for Thomas J. Usher   10/04/2004
**Signature of Reporting Person Date

Explanation of Responses:

* If the form is filed by more than one reporting person, see Instruction 4(b)(v).
** Intentional misstatements or omissions of facts constitute Federal Criminal Violations. See 18 U.S.C. 1001 and 15 U.S.C. 78ff(a).
(1) 1 for 1.
(2) Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan.
(3) Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon distribution from the reporting person's plan account and generally do not expir e.
(4) Phantom Stock Units received under the PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan during 2004.
(5) Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Outside Directors Deferred Stock Unit Plan.

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